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		<title>Comment on Keanu: Wachowski&#8217;s Wrote Treatments for Matrix 4 &amp; 5, both to be 3D? by Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Matrix Resurrection is what I&#039;d call it. I really hope they continue the franchise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Matrix Resurrection is what I&#8217;d call it. I really hope they continue the franchise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by LordTJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the sense of The Matrix itself in terms of how far can one develop Neo and the story, then maybe a film is not needed, but a TV mini series of 10 episodes with each being 60 minuets and no commercials. Like how Spielberg had Band of Brothers on HBO as ten part mini. This would give The Matrix 600 minuets or 10 hours to shell it out or a 12 part mini that would be 720 minuets. With this you can really allow Neo to grow on people, expand on ideas that would be too much for a film, and have sub plots to carry it on, and have cinema style visual effects.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the sense of The Matrix itself in terms of how far can one develop Neo and the story, then maybe a film is not needed, but a TV mini series of 10 episodes with each being 60 minuets and no commercials. Like how Spielberg had Band of Brothers on HBO as ten part mini. This would give The Matrix 600 minuets or 10 hours to shell it out or a 12 part mini that would be 720 minuets. With this you can really allow Neo to grow on people, expand on ideas that would be too much for a film, and have sub plots to carry it on, and have cinema style visual effects.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by Specter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Specter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 05:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, that&#039;s what I was hoping to inspire.  These types of thoughts.  Thanks for that.  Interesting thoughts.  I&#039;m not sure that our ideas are so far apart.  My idea of doing two sequels is based on the idea that studios tend to love trilogies, and my ideas might be too big for just one movie.  However, since it&#039;s not been written, it&#039;s possible that all of my ideas would fit in one script.  (Keep in mind that, on average, the number of pages in a script tends to equal the number of pages in a script.  (Unless it&#039;s an Aaron Sorkin script, or Gossip Girls, where it&#039;s about one and a half pages per minute.))

I like the idea of keeping it smaller, too.  I think a good idea would be to follow the TV series style of storytelling, or the Tolkien one, where the action sequences and films aren&#039;t pushing things beyond the scope of the first part at all, it&#039;s just the stakes that are raised a bit, as the story gets a bit more complex or the plans set in motion from the first part are finally coming to fruition and mistakes can&#039;t be made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, that&#8217;s what I was hoping to inspire.  These types of thoughts.  Thanks for that.  Interesting thoughts.  I&#8217;m not sure that our ideas are so far apart.  My idea of doing two sequels is based on the idea that studios tend to love trilogies, and my ideas might be too big for just one movie.  However, since it&#8217;s not been written, it&#8217;s possible that all of my ideas would fit in one script.  (Keep in mind that, on average, the number of pages in a script tends to equal the number of pages in a script.  (Unless it&#8217;s an Aaron Sorkin script, or Gossip Girls, where it&#8217;s about one and a half pages per minute.))</p>
<p>I like the idea of keeping it smaller, too.  I think a good idea would be to follow the TV series style of storytelling, or the Tolkien one, where the action sequences and films aren&#8217;t pushing things beyond the scope of the first part at all, it&#8217;s just the stakes that are raised a bit, as the story gets a bit more complex or the plans set in motion from the first part are finally coming to fruition and mistakes can&#8217;t be made.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by LordTJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 05:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I had to do it that way, I don&#039;t think I would make another two. The Matrix literally took everything from comics, video games, movies, philosophy, religion, and much more and combined it into one movie. The Matrix itself was so amazing and culturally moving that I think it would of been fine as a stand alone. 

But if I really had to make more I wouldn&#039;t do two but just one more and it would have a run time of about 155 minuets, and it would take all that was thrown into the first Matrix and go deeper with it. Take it further down the rabbit hole and end it with Neo reaching total enlightenment.

 Sometimes bigger is not always better and though Reloaded had more money, we saw that it focused more on visuals than story, which made the first movie so great. An example would be The Chronicles of Riddick. Riddick: Pitch black was made on less money and showed Riddick&#039;s true gritter side which made people love him. However the second movie was made with more money and a larger scope and took Riddick from the smaller environment to a bigger one that didn&#039;t make him the same as he was before. 

Making my sequel would be for like 125 million less than reloaded/revolutions of 150 million  but more than the Matrix 63 million, and less than Inception 160 million. I would return to the same smaller style The Matrix was, expand on Neo as the One, and go further down the rabbit hole and in the end have him become like a God in the Matrix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had to do it that way, I don&#8217;t think I would make another two. The Matrix literally took everything from comics, video games, movies, philosophy, religion, and much more and combined it into one movie. The Matrix itself was so amazing and culturally moving that I think it would of been fine as a stand alone. </p>
<p>But if I really had to make more I wouldn&#8217;t do two but just one more and it would have a run time of about 155 minuets, and it would take all that was thrown into the first Matrix and go deeper with it. Take it further down the rabbit hole and end it with Neo reaching total enlightenment.</p>
<p> Sometimes bigger is not always better and though Reloaded had more money, we saw that it focused more on visuals than story, which made the first movie so great. An example would be The Chronicles of Riddick. Riddick: Pitch black was made on less money and showed Riddick&#8217;s true gritter side which made people love him. However the second movie was made with more money and a larger scope and took Riddick from the smaller environment to a bigger one that didn&#8217;t make him the same as he was before. </p>
<p>Making my sequel would be for like 125 million less than reloaded/revolutions of 150 million  but more than the Matrix 63 million, and less than Inception 160 million. I would return to the same smaller style The Matrix was, expand on Neo as the One, and go further down the rabbit hole and in the end have him become like a God in the Matrix.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by Specter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Specter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see why you went the way you did then.  And indeed, Spider-Man was a reboot, but it was going to use the same characters because those are true to the original comic.

I supposed it&#039;s re-imagined then... however, I&#039;m not going to change the titles, so :-P.  I&#039;m going to keep calling this series &quot;The Matrix Sequels Rebooted&quot; because it&#039;s what brings the traffic.  And that&#039;s good enough for me.  :-)  Plus, I&#039;ve just done some research about the terms &quot;Reboot,&quot; &quot;Reimagine,&quot; and &quot;Remake,&quot; and none of them seem to apply to what I would do.

This doesn&#039;t actually fit the Battlestar Galactica model, the Spider-Man model, the Batman Begins model, or anything that has been done save for one thing: Superman Returns.

Superman Returns is actually not a reboot, but a sequel.  It was made as a sequel to Richard Donnor&#039;s Superman and Superman II.  It also considers Superman III and IV to be non-existant.  This makes Superman Returns the new Superman III, though it uses none of the characters from the original Superman III.  That&#039;s sort of what I mean, and is a more perfect example for what I would do: ignore the fact that Reloaded and Revolutions exist at all, and make two new sequels to &quot;The Matrix.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see why you went the way you did then.  And indeed, Spider-Man was a reboot, but it was going to use the same characters because those are true to the original comic.</p>
<p>I supposed it&#8217;s re-imagined then&#8230; however, I&#8217;m not going to change the titles, so <img src='http://www.matrixfans.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I&#8217;m going to keep calling this series &#8220;The Matrix Sequels Rebooted&#8221; because it&#8217;s what brings the traffic.  And that&#8217;s good enough for me.  <img src='http://www.matrixfans.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Plus, I&#8217;ve just done some research about the terms &#8220;Reboot,&#8221; &#8220;Reimagine,&#8221; and &#8220;Remake,&#8221; and none of them seem to apply to what I would do.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t actually fit the Battlestar Galactica model, the Spider-Man model, the Batman Begins model, or anything that has been done save for one thing: Superman Returns.</p>
<p>Superman Returns is actually not a reboot, but a sequel.  It was made as a sequel to Richard Donnor&#8217;s Superman and Superman II.  It also considers Superman III and IV to be non-existant.  This makes Superman Returns the new Superman III, though it uses none of the characters from the original Superman III.  That&#8217;s sort of what I mean, and is a more perfect example for what I would do: ignore the fact that Reloaded and Revolutions exist at all, and make two new sequels to &#8220;The Matrix.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by LordTJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you rebooted the Matrix and did not include these characters then it wouldn&#039;t be a reboot, but a re-imagined matrix almost how Ronald D. Moore did re-did Battle Star Galatica which is considered a re-imagined version and not a reboot since it did not stay true to the source, but changed how the story was told.

To do a true reboot you would have to include the Merovigian and all those who appear inside the trilogy. That&#039;s why I raised these questions because a true reboot would have to answer all of these questions when it is remade. Spiderman was rebooted into the Amazing Spider-man with the same characters, same origin, but stayed true to the comics. 

So would you want to re-boot the Matrix trilofy or re-imagined it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you rebooted the Matrix and did not include these characters then it wouldn&#8217;t be a reboot, but a re-imagined matrix almost how Ronald D. Moore did re-did Battle Star Galatica which is considered a re-imagined version and not a reboot since it did not stay true to the source, but changed how the story was told.</p>
<p>To do a true reboot you would have to include the Merovigian and all those who appear inside the trilogy. That&#8217;s why I raised these questions because a true reboot would have to answer all of these questions when it is remade. Spiderman was rebooted into the Amazing Spider-man with the same characters, same origin, but stayed true to the comics. </p>
<p>So would you want to re-boot the Matrix trilofy or re-imagined it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by Specter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Specter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay.  I understand that you have a lot (a LOT) of very valid questions and all.  I&#039;m just curious as to why you started with &quot;The only problem with this is that the Matrix Trilogy has too many plot holes and unanswered questions.&quot;

My article / story suggests that The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions didn&#039;t actually happen, and would be rebooted using the story points that I described throughout the article.  Entire characters, such as the Merovingian, would be cut out, and never appear.

My questions for you are these: 
Why did you take the opportunity to comment on this article with all of these questions/comments about the actual movies, rather than my pitch for rebooted versions of the movies?

What would you do, if you were to reboot the sequels?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  I understand that you have a lot (a LOT) of very valid questions and all.  I&#8217;m just curious as to why you started with &#8220;The only problem with this is that the Matrix Trilogy has too many plot holes and unanswered questions.&#8221;</p>
<p>My article / story suggests that The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions didn&#8217;t actually happen, and would be rebooted using the story points that I described throughout the article.  Entire characters, such as the Merovingian, would be cut out, and never appear.</p>
<p>My questions for you are these:<br />
Why did you take the opportunity to comment on this article with all of these questions/comments about the actual movies, rather than my pitch for rebooted versions of the movies?</p>
<p>What would you do, if you were to reboot the sequels?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Sequels Rebooted &#8211; Where Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions Could have gone &#8211; Idea 1 by LordTJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LordTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only problem with this is that the Matrix Trilogy has too many plot holes and unanswered questions. The first move is fine until you get to Reloaded which really messes things up, (though it is the better of all three) it is also the worst for the plot line. 

When the Merovingian, Architect, Oracle, and Smith reappears it not only raises more questions in the first film, but  add plot holes in the first film as well. Not to mention the game Enter The Matrix. What of the other One&#039;s? What is so special about Neo as the One this time around? What happen to the other One&#039;s after Zion was destroyed and they chose men and women to rebuild? Wouldn&#039;t those the other One&#039;s chose still remember and have recorded him down? Wouldn&#039;t the other One&#039;s tell the new people he chosen of the Architect, the choice he made, and the repeat, so they would know record it down ad pass it down as knowledge to the others who will come in Zion? Did the other One&#039;s have a love interest? 

When Persophe talks to Neo she tell him her husband the Mero was just like him when he first came, so knowing the history of the Merovingian who believed they were Christ blood line... What kind of abilities did the mero have, where did he come from, how did he gain them, and what happen to them? In reloaded/revolutions he clearly has none. The Mero tell Neo he survived his predecessors, so what conflict did they have before then with him? If the Mero had abilities like Neo what did the agents do about it? Does the Mero knows there&#039;s an Architect, and what happens to him after Revolutions, and where is he during the Matrix?

Why did Trinity jump out the window in reloaded if she didn&#039;t Neo was going to catch her? Neo never told anyone but the Oracle how she died and didn&#039;t even tell the Oracle how he just said he saw her falling. So if Trin didn&#039;t know Neo would catch her why jump out the window if she would die anyway? 

What bigger role do the Architect and Oracle play, and does Deus ex Machina has it set up this way, and why? We know the Oracle and Architect know of each other and all that has ever happened, the question is who control them&quot; Does Deus ex Machina does or do they operate freely?

Is Neo really the One? The oracle said that the One can remake the matrix however he deemed fit, however Neo did not do this in revolutions. Morpheus said the One would end the  war, but Neo failed to this as well, at the end of Revolutions we know there is peace as long it can last, or an armistice, never an end to the war. The war to end it would be to destroy the machine in the City of Zero One. 

If Jesus was the Son of God, wouldn&#039;t Neo be the son of Deus Ex Machina who is represent as God in the real world, in which neo his only Son was sent into the Matrix to die for everyone sins and free them? If he is then wouldn&#039;t that make Neo a machine and not human, as Jesus was a God born into a human body? If so then wouldn&#039;t that mean that the Machines have found a way to replicate humans from flesh and bone to walk and talk in the real world?

How do we know that Zion is another Matrix or level of control? And if the humans in Zion know that the war was fought between man and between shouldn&#039;t they know (like i said) about the Architect? But if it is another Matrix then wouldn&#039;t that history be fabricated to as well with the war? If the Matrux has to mimic real world how long does it exists before it is rebooted, does it goes into the future or does it remain like 1999 the whole time? if so why don&#039;t know one notices it, or dies it get to 1999 and repeat, and if it does repeat what year does it reboots too current or past centuries?

The Matrix really when you see it is not a well written trilogy. It has great ideas but the story/screen play is not well written at all. This could be because of since it was stolen from that black lady (forgot her name) but&#039;s overall is not well written or clearly thought out. Matrix would be hard to remake because It&#039;s hard to capture the original feel, but not impossible. If I had to make it I would continue the story where it left off and go into detail where the previous films left gap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with this is that the Matrix Trilogy has too many plot holes and unanswered questions. The first move is fine until you get to Reloaded which really messes things up, (though it is the better of all three) it is also the worst for the plot line. </p>
<p>When the Merovingian, Architect, Oracle, and Smith reappears it not only raises more questions in the first film, but  add plot holes in the first film as well. Not to mention the game Enter The Matrix. What of the other One&#8217;s? What is so special about Neo as the One this time around? What happen to the other One&#8217;s after Zion was destroyed and they chose men and women to rebuild? Wouldn&#8217;t those the other One&#8217;s chose still remember and have recorded him down? Wouldn&#8217;t the other One&#8217;s tell the new people he chosen of the Architect, the choice he made, and the repeat, so they would know record it down ad pass it down as knowledge to the others who will come in Zion? Did the other One&#8217;s have a love interest? </p>
<p>When Persophe talks to Neo she tell him her husband the Mero was just like him when he first came, so knowing the history of the Merovingian who believed they were Christ blood line&#8230; What kind of abilities did the mero have, where did he come from, how did he gain them, and what happen to them? In reloaded/revolutions he clearly has none. The Mero tell Neo he survived his predecessors, so what conflict did they have before then with him? If the Mero had abilities like Neo what did the agents do about it? Does the Mero knows there&#8217;s an Architect, and what happens to him after Revolutions, and where is he during the Matrix?</p>
<p>Why did Trinity jump out the window in reloaded if she didn&#8217;t Neo was going to catch her? Neo never told anyone but the Oracle how she died and didn&#8217;t even tell the Oracle how he just said he saw her falling. So if Trin didn&#8217;t know Neo would catch her why jump out the window if she would die anyway? </p>
<p>What bigger role do the Architect and Oracle play, and does Deus ex Machina has it set up this way, and why? We know the Oracle and Architect know of each other and all that has ever happened, the question is who control them&#8221; Does Deus ex Machina does or do they operate freely?</p>
<p>Is Neo really the One? The oracle said that the One can remake the matrix however he deemed fit, however Neo did not do this in revolutions. Morpheus said the One would end the  war, but Neo failed to this as well, at the end of Revolutions we know there is peace as long it can last, or an armistice, never an end to the war. The war to end it would be to destroy the machine in the City of Zero One. </p>
<p>If Jesus was the Son of God, wouldn&#8217;t Neo be the son of Deus Ex Machina who is represent as God in the real world, in which neo his only Son was sent into the Matrix to die for everyone sins and free them? If he is then wouldn&#8217;t that make Neo a machine and not human, as Jesus was a God born into a human body? If so then wouldn&#8217;t that mean that the Machines have found a way to replicate humans from flesh and bone to walk and talk in the real world?</p>
<p>How do we know that Zion is another Matrix or level of control? And if the humans in Zion know that the war was fought between man and between shouldn&#8217;t they know (like i said) about the Architect? But if it is another Matrix then wouldn&#8217;t that history be fabricated to as well with the war? If the Matrux has to mimic real world how long does it exists before it is rebooted, does it goes into the future or does it remain like 1999 the whole time? if so why don&#8217;t know one notices it, or dies it get to 1999 and repeat, and if it does repeat what year does it reboots too current or past centuries?</p>
<p>The Matrix really when you see it is not a well written trilogy. It has great ideas but the story/screen play is not well written at all. This could be because of since it was stolen from that black lady (forgot her name) but&#8217;s overall is not well written or clearly thought out. Matrix would be hard to remake because It&#8217;s hard to capture the original feel, but not impossible. If I had to make it I would continue the story where it left off and go into detail where the previous films left gap.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix: The TV Series? by Reggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really need to be a matrix tv series because the movies are great, I really want it to be a matrix series the matrix movies always been my favorite movies of all times when they ever make a matrix tv series ,the series need to be great ,plese plese plese make a matrix tv series.This is what I want to see I want to see people on the ceiling like in the movies and good bullet time it wouldn&#039;t be a matrix series without good bullet time and I want to see more in the matrix than out the matrix and plese pick the right people to be in the this series.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really need to be a matrix tv series because the movies are great, I really want it to be a matrix series the matrix movies always been my favorite movies of all times when they ever make a matrix tv series ,the series need to be great ,plese plese plese make a matrix tv series.This is what I want to see I want to see people on the ceiling like in the movies and good bullet time it wouldn&#8217;t be a matrix series without good bullet time and I want to see more in the matrix than out the matrix and plese pick the right people to be in the this series.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Matrix Reboots in 2014 with Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez and Jaden Smith by MARK</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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